tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12046714.post3983716757244715556..comments2024-03-27T13:58:49.915+01:00Comments on Words and what not: DalecarlianGerardMhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14287269079265427282noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12046714.post-71427922051741373532008-02-20T11:21:00.000+01:002008-02-20T11:21:00.000+01:00According to the rules of the ISO-639 standard, th...According to the rules of the ISO-639 standard, the code dlc will not be used for anything but Dalecarlian. <BR/><BR/>The issue on how to deal with languages linguistic entities will change considerably when the ISO-639-6 happens. Dalecarlian will not be considered a language by its inclusion it will be a linguistic entity like any other. It will require existence in the ISO-639-3 to be decisively called a language.<BR/>Thanks,<BR/> GerardMGerardMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14287269079265427282noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12046714.post-40302269851032407102008-02-20T11:10:00.000+01:002008-02-20T11:10:00.000+01:00More than a year ago I mailed SIL asking why this ...More than a year ago I mailed SIL asking why this is. Their answer was that Ethnologue used an unpublished version of ISO 639-3 as its base, and that [dlc] Dalecarian was removed along with [scy] Scanian before its publishment. Therefore, the codes do not even appear in the ISO 639-3 “change log”.<BR/><BR/>Now, the reason these codes were removed is what worries me. The codes were not removed because these languages didn’t qualify as languages, but because – hold on – the Swedish government threatened not to ratify ISO 639-3 unless SIL removed these codes.<BR/><BR/>So in other words, the “impartial” source that we in the language committee use as our platform, does in fact succumb to political pressure. This is not good.<BR/><BR/>In my mind there is not a single doubt that [dlc] Dalecarlian (Elfdalian) is a separate language – it is very different from Swedish, and as far as I can tell, it is much closer to Old Norse or Icelandic than what it is to Swedish. About [scy] Scanian, however, I am quite skeptical as to its qualifications as a separate language. Once it may have been, but today it is just a distinct dialect of Swedish. I have no more difficulty understanding Scanian than understanding standard Swedish, but it is easy to tell them apart.Jon Harald Søbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11665190136571504166noreply@blogger.com